LMS 617 Third Sleeper built 1951

LMS 617 Third Sleeper built 1951

LMS 617 Third Sleeper built 1951
LMS 617 Third Sleeper built 1951

 

Present Location Stoke-on-Trent
County Location Staffordshire
Designed For LMS
Build Location Derby
Built by BR
Diagram number 2169
Lot number 1628
Type SLT
First Number 617
Present Number None
Current Livery BR Maroon
Gauge 4ft 8 1/2in
Wheel Arrangement 4-w bogies
Original Underframe Yes
Original Bogies/Wheelsets Yes
Additional Notes P 80 by Purbeck School Dorset as Field Studies base. 4 compartments and pantry removed to give kitchen/dining area. At Dean Forest Railway till 1990's. 10/15: reported as at risk of being scrapped if a new owner can't be found. 10/17: talks are at an advanced for acquisition by 2859 Locomotive Group Ltd after which it will be moved to a new location for restoration to begin. 05/18: still at Swindon and Cricklade (see main photo). 10/18: exchange in progress involving this vehicle moving to storage in Stoke-on-Trent and LMS Inspection Saloon underframe 45036 (qv) moving to Swindon and Cricklade Railway.
Owner Private
External Structural Condition Satisfactory
Internal Structural Condition Fair
Underframe Condition Fair
External Finish Satisfactory
Internal Finish Poor and Incomplete
Degree of External Originality As built/last Passenger rebuild (BR or before)
Degree of Internal Originality Conversion/rebuild/reproduction
Degree of Underframe/Running Gear Originality As built/last Passenger rebuild (BR or before)
Degree of External Authenticity Good
Degree of Internal Authenticity Poor
Degree of Underframe Authenticity Good
Rarity Several
Historical Importance some Interest, Modest Consequence
Operating No
Survey Date 13/03/1999
Surveyor David Wigley
Photo Date 19/05/2018
Photo by Craig Browning
At Risk No
Date Record Last Updated 03/11/2018

Michael Cope 14/10/2000: earlier condition
Michael Cope 14/10/2000: earlier condition


 

 










 





 

 

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